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Sunday, December 09, 2007

Mitt's speech on Mormonism

I was interested to hear that Mitt Romney was going to make a speech about Mormonism. It's not surprising that he would give such a speech - Obama has already given his version of the 1960 "Kennedy speech" - how much more anticipated might a talk about one of the most exotic of Christian denominations, with popular culture links to topics as diverse as Victorian explorer Sir Richard Burton's admiration for Joseph Smith to the roots of Battlestar Galactica.

So I was intrigued when I saw that On Faith had asked a question about the speech .... What did you think of Mitt Romney's speech Thursday about religion? What would you have told him to say?. One of the answers given was by Thomas Reese SJ and, as usual, his answer was very thoughtful and thorough, and touched not just on Mormonism and politics but the whole subject of the separation of Church and State. Here's just part of it .....

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[...] Governor Romney in his speech made many intelligent points with which I can easily agree.

• “A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.”

• “[N]o authorities of my church, or of any other church for that matter, will ever exert influence on presidential decisions.”

• “I will serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest. A President must serve only the common cause of the people of the United States.”

• “There are some who would have a presidential candidate describe and explain his church's distinctive doctrines. To do so would enable the very religious test the founders prohibited in the Constitution.”

• “[L]iberty is a gift of God, not an indulgence of government.”

• “[O]ur founding fathers defined a revolutionary vision of liberty, grounded on self evident truths about the equality of all, and the inalienable rights with which each is endowed by his Creator.”

There are other statements to which I would respond, “Yes, but….”

• “John Adams’ words: ‘We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion... Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people.’”
The rule of law cannot be maintained simply by the fear of getting caught. We are not a police state. Religious moral codes support civilized behavior and help make civilized society possible. But while most Americans get their morality from their religion, it is also possible for nonbelievers to be moral citizens. Both believers and nonbelievers can be moral paragons and moral failures.

• “Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom…. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone.”
As a sound bite this works well, but it requires some qualifications. By insisting that all people are children of God with inherent dignity and rights given to them by God, religion lays the foundation for limiting the power of government. And when believers have used governmental power to limit the freedom of others, they have not only harmed their neighbors but have corrupted their own religion. But Romney’s sound bites give the impression that only believers support freedom. Like believers, nonbelievers have both supported and suppressed the freedom of others.

• “The founders proscribed the establishment of a state religion, but they did not countenance the elimination of religion from the public square. We are a nation 'Under God' and in God, we do indeed trust. We should acknowledge the Creator as did the Founders – in ceremony and word. He should remain on our currency, in our pledge, in the teaching of our history, and during the holiday season, nativity scenes and menorahs should be welcome in our public places.”
Yes, but we are also a nation that has room for nonbelievers and protects their right to be atheists. This is an area that requires dialogue, civil discussion and compromise. Any impression that government is favoring one religion over others or forcing religion down people’s throats must be avoided at all costs.

• “Our greatness would not long endure without judges who respect the foundation of faith upon which our constitution rests.”
This statement is vague and therefore dangerous. Clearly we do not want judges who abuse their positions either to advance a particular religion or to abuse religion in general. When, where and how religion can be expressed in the public square are not easy questions. The courts have grappled with prayer in public schools, aid to religious schools, nativity scenes on public property, bible and religious study in public schools, etc. I would not agree with all of their decisions, but they are mostly reasonable attempts to balance competing interests and goals with distinctions and nuance. For example, voluntary prayers composed by students are OK; prayers composed by school (government) employees are not.

• “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind.”
I believe this too, but it does not belong in a campaign speech. Like Governor Mike Huckabee's Iowa ads touting himself as a “Christian leader,” it implies that there is a “religion test” for political office. Both are pandering to those who would deny political office to people who differ with them on theology. Senator Joseph Lieberman cannot make this statement, but that is no reason to exclude him from office.

• “[W]hile differences in theology exist between the churches in America, we share a common creed of moral convictions.”
Perhaps we do on the general level of high principle, but many of the fights within and between churches today are over moral issues: abortion, gay sex, embryonic stem cell research, the Iraq war, immigration, AIDS prevention strategies, sex education, etc. The devil is in the details.

• “[N]o movement of conscience can succeed in America that cannot speak to the convictions of religious people.”
This is empirically true because there are so many religious people in the U.S.; they must be won over. But many movements of conscience have had nonbelievers as both leaders and followers.

• “The consequence of our common humanity is our responsibility to one another, to our fellow Americans foremost, but also to every child of God.”
My problem is with the word “foremost.” While it is true that we have a special responsibility to those closest to us, God does not have a preferential option for Americans.

Catholics come to the discussion of religion in the public square with their own unique experience. We know that when our church abused its political power in Europe, it sinned against the freedom and rights of others. When the church got in bed with kings and elites, it sowed the seeds of its own corruption. European secularism is in many ways a response to abuses by the churches.

The Catholic experience in America is one of both freedom and discrimination. The separation of church and state allowed Catholicism to flourish in freedom, but Catholic immigrants also experienced discrimination from Protestants who felt that Catholics were not American enough. Protestant prayers in public schools drove Catholics to build their own school system. As a result, American Catholics are especially sensitive to the rights of religious minorities.

Within the Catholic community there are divisions over the role of religion in the public square. Since Catholics believe that not just Scripture but also reason is a source of morality, one group believes that political discourse in the public square should appeal to reason and the natural law not to scripture and church authority. References to scripture and church teaching are appropriate in Catholic churches and schools, but not on the campaign trail.

A few also fear that the generic God of political religion is a form of relativism.

Other Catholics see the public expression of religion in the public square as the positive fruits of ecumenism and interreligious dialogue. A vocal number fear that secularists want to push religion totally out of public life. They are pushing back.

While we can thank Governor Romney for his contribution to the discussion of religion in the public square, what is needed is a calm public discussion of these issues away from the campaign trail. Demonizing opponents as Christian fascists or religion haters does not help American society. We need to listen to each other, walk in each others’ shoes and look for common ground. Rather than zeroing in on extreme positions, we need to search for a middle ground that respects all Americans.

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8 Comments:

Blogger Liam said...

Romney's problem, of course, is that he wants to have it both ways. He wants to use the rhetoric of conservative evangelical Christianity without the condemnation of Mormonism. He wants the Mormons to get together with the fundamentalists so that they can exclude other people together.

I really can't stand him.

4:48 PM  
Blogger crystal said...

Hi Liam,

It is kind of schizophrenic. I'd bet you have a special insight into Romney, having lived in Utah.

5:47 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

I've got some mixed feelings about his.

Liam is absolutely right. Romney's speech wasn't like Kennedy's speech at all. Romney just wants a place at the theocratic table.

On the other hand... even though I couldn't embrace Mormonism in a million years, they've shed their blood fighting for this country just like everyone else. It's 2007. I'm sick and tired of people having to go grovelling hat in hand to Evangelical Protestants, having to explain to them that they are real Americans. That mindset still appears to be alive and well... To be a real American, you have to be a Protestant. Everyone else is just suffered here.

6:34 AM  
Blogger crystal said...

I read somewhere that even Protestants that are not Evangelical, like Episcopalians, are considered out of touch theologically. But maybe it's only so among Republicans and their weird wedding of politics and religion.

11:15 AM  
Blogger Liam said...

The problem isn't that he "has" to go groveling to them, it's that he wants to exploit the "we are a Christian nation" thing in a traditional right-wing way.

That is sort of common among the way the Mormons are -- they want to separate themselves from all of us "apostates" (whether we are Protestant or Catholic), but at the same time they want to be considered normal Christians like anyone else. They always baptize their converts, but when whatever Christian denomination insists that a convert from Mormonism be baptized, they get all offended.

12:11 PM  
Blogger crystal said...

Liam,

I've read that about 30+% of voters have said they wouldn't vote for a Mormon. I suppose his speech was to defuse the perceived weirdness of Mormonism, but he didn't address any of the things that make it weird, but went the other way and said it was just like other denominations. I read also that about 40% of voters didn't even realize he was a Mormon until the speech :-)

It's interesting, but seems academic as he'll never get close to winning.

2:05 PM  
Blogger cowboyangel said...

Crystal,

Wow, you've been busy lately on your blog. so much good stuff to look at. It's end of semester and crazy, so I've been out of touch with the blogging. Will catch up soon.

Good discussion. i'm surprised, though, that Liam dislikes Romney. He's never mentioned that. ;-)

And, yes, a lot of Evangelicals think Protestant groups like the Epicopalians, Methodists, etc. are out of touch theologically. Actually, they dislike most mainline Protestant churches, with the exception of the Southern Baptist Convention. A lot today's Evangelicals had roots in the 1960's anti-establishment movement and the Charismatic movement. Some of them were hippies and pretty cool. They rejected the established mainline churches and went off and started all these non-denominational churches, many of which are now your Super-Churhces. A lot of them also became like cults, driven by one charismatic (in the other sense) leaders. i wound up in one of those for a while. Not a good scene in the end. But, like the rest of the country, this group eventually became more and more conservative, until now they're over in the far right. Kind of weird. But not all of them were like that in the beginning.

Not sure what this has to do with Romney - sorry.

8:42 AM  
Blogger crystal said...

Hi William,

Yeah, I think some of my wxtended family joined one of those odd churches, called "the wherehouse" - conservative and fringe at the time.

11:36 AM  

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