Ezra and Haviv

In the past I've often watched the podcasts of Ezra Klein of The New York Times. Whenever he's had an episode on Israel, I've wished he would have Haviv Rettig Gur as his guest (Ezra falls into the Democrats against Israel pile). Many other people in the comments to Ezra's videos have also mentioned Haviv, but Ezra has never had him on the podcast so far. But today I saw video by Haviv that comments on Ezra's show and his complaints about Israel. It was very interesting ...