At San Francisco's Grace Cathedral

Rob Bell talks to Jane Shaw at Grace Cathedral - listen to the podcast here Towards the end he said something about the future of the Evangelical Churches that could really be applied to the US Catholic Church ....

I think we are witnessing the death of a particular subculture that doesn't work. I think there is a very narrow, politically intertwined, culturally ghettoized Evangelical subculture that was told we're were going to change the thing and they haven't. And they actually have turned away lots of people. And I think when you are in a part of the subculture that is dying, you make a lot more noise because that's very painful. So, you sort of die or you adapt. And if you adapt that means you have to come face to face with [the fact that] some of the ways we've talked about God don't actually shape people into more loving, compassionate people. And we have supported policies and ways of viewing the world that are actually destructive. We've done it in the name of God and we need to repent.